This is Hacker Public Radio episode 4,107 for Tuesday the 30th of April 2024.
Today's show is entitled, Response to Hacker Public Radio 4,065.
It is hosted by Swift 110 and is about 22 minutes long.
It carries a clean flag.
The summary is, shout out to a shout out I talk more about what I want in a framework laptop.
Everybody, this is Swift 110 and I thought it would be great to do a response to a response
to one of my latest audio post here on Hacker Public Radio.
The noodles did a really, really, really good job at giving this response and sharing
his information about the Intel framework that he is currently using.
I appreciate the shout out, shout out back, follow me guys, that was an amazing, amazing post
here on Hacker Public Radio.
Thanks again for that.
Now, what he posted was HHPR, that's 4,065, framework 13, 13 generation Intel review.
This was in response to my post here on Hacker Public Radio and that one specifically
once I get my, wow, there it is.
This was in response to my own personal post here and, yeah, I think mine was HPR 40, 45.
So if you get a chance to check out my original post where I was talking about my MacBook
Pro 2015 and how I look forward to some day getting a framework 13, now let me go into
that.
The framework 13 that I want in particular is the AMD version and I want the best CPU
and the most RAM that I can get in there, like that's like top.
I know I want the AMD version from reading on Reddit and other comments I've seen online
because it has a better graphics card than the Intel version does and so I want to make
sure that if I get this new machine and I spin this new machine money, then I'm going
to get the best that I can get.
One of the things I really like about framework is their repair ability and to tell you
a brief story about the MacBook 2010 that I have, I was using it, got it as a gift for
free and really nice, used it for Zoom virtually every day during the pandemic, which
was very critical to my mental health at the time because of everything going on in the
world at that time, so sure you can understand and so it was nice being able to communicate
with friends from different parts of the country by means of Zoom and that machine, although
really, really, really old, was really, really good at getting me communicate, getting me connected
to friends all over the country and so I'm grateful for having that particular machine.
It's just a beautiful thing.
Now I'm going to somehow connect Apple to framework.
Now what I appreciated about that particular machine that MacBook 2010 is that I could take
the RAM from whatever was in there already, be it, two gigs of RAM or four gigs of
RAM.
Oh, I could bring it all the way up to 16 gigs of RAM, nice, right?
How many machines can you do that in modern times?
Over time things got soldered, hard drives got soldered, this got soldered, that got soldered,
everybody soldered, soldered, filled me so it was good to go to a company that I wasn't
expecting to have such a great ability, but to be able to make my machine a lot greater
than what it was before I made those upgrades, another upgrade, again, up to 16 gigs of
RAM.
Okay?
I'm dealing with the Core 2 Duo CPU, but at least that Core 2 Duo CPU got some help, because
in addition to that RAM, I was able to take out the original hard drive and get a new
SSD.
That was not only newer, but being an SSD it has no moving parts, so it's more durable,
it's just a better faster, and also had a greater storage ability.
That's definitely a plus on its own, and so upgrading the RAM, upgrading the hard drives,
and then going from the operating system I had on that particular machine at the time,
which I am going to venture, I forgot what it was, and you know what, it doesn't matter
what it was, because I ended up putting Catalina over there.
It took a long time to get it done, because my internet was hot garbage at the time, but
got the job done and had a functioning machine in that whole scenario, so yeah, congratulations.
This is where Apple was doing at that time.
Apple moved away from allowing their machines to be repairable by the user, and so in essence
they fell from grace, which is a real dog on shame, if you ask me.
Now compare that two, for example, the T420 that I have right to my right, very nice
machine got it back in 2016, I believe, got that for a pawn shop, nice, but I also ended
up getting a new one from an online retailer, as a surplus in Michigan, I got a nice T420
from them, and that one's really nice, a problem is it overheats really easily, and I don't
like that at all, and so it ended up not being so useful for Zoom because it would just cut
all frameable, which is why I rarely use it, also there's an issue with the keyboard and
whatever other issues I've forgotten about, but that just is what it is.
The fact that I had problems with that particular machine made me appreciate the MacBook
2010 even more, and I used that MacBook 2010 until I managed to spills just a little bit
water into the keyboard one day, July a few years ago, I remember that I had no idea, and from
that day on the keyboard just did not work properly, the machine was shut off randomly, I had to
keep it plugged in all the time, just for the thing work and hope the goodness it doesn't come loose,
or anything, what happened is shut it off, because then I'd have to unplug the battery,
I'd have to press keys, do all kinds of stuff, and it might come back on or it might not,
sometimes I had to sit for a while, I messed with it, then it comes on, but it was nice to just
have it on for a while, but it still will be really wonky, just needed to sip a water real quick,
but yeah, not that long afterwards I was able to actually get this MacBook Pro 2015, this was a gift,
and I really appreciate this machine from the time that I got it, it's actually running
Monterey, and I'm going to be updating that in a little bit, not to a new operating system,
but just to another version, security, version of that operating system, make sure it stays up to date,
and I'll stick on Monterey as long as it's reasonable to do so, and then when I see fit, I'll go to
a later version, I'll see how far I can take that, but to be honest right now, I'm really happy with
this MacBook Pro in 2015, it's got 16 gigs of RAM, it's an i7 processor, all in all, let's be
more specific about that, because I'm pretty much going to talk about what I have right now,
and then compare that to what I actually want with regards to framework, the problem was waiting
for that talk about the framework, the actual CPU I have in here is an Intel i7, 4770HQ,
I got a GPU of an Intel Ivers Pro, and I'm rocking 16 gigs of RAM, what I want to have,
and then framework, let's go to the actual framework website, lab site,
hmm, did I really say lab site, website, is the framework lab top 13,
do-it-yourself edition AMD Ryzen 7040 series, boom boom boom, let's kick on that orange,
configure button shall we, oh, what have we got here, do I really want that 7040 series,
eh, I bet you I can be better than that, why not go ahead and get that 7840, you,
but that 8 core and 16th grade, and it comes with that big battery, 61 watt hours, okay,
that's going to be an additional 320 over the 849 that I started off with for a whopping $1,169,
okay, now I add to that even more, and let's just assume that I'm configuring this machine with
all parts from framework and that I'm not getting my own from another source, so let's do this DDR5,
64 gigs, that's another $320 that brings me up to $1489, now I already got that going on, let's
talk about the storage, what kind of storage do I want, hmm western digital black S and 770,
or S and 850X NVMe, well the S and 850X NVMe is one terabyte and it's only a couple bucks more than
$99, so with the heck, let me go ahead and do that, oh no operating system, you're trying to get
me to put windows on this thing, I will not curse this machine with windows, I guarantee it,
so I'll tell you what, we can go ahead and click that none, bring your own, now we come to a bezel,
you see one of the reasons that I like the framework is the fact that you can customize your
machine according to what you want, you're not going to try to give me a machine to just got 8 gigs of
RAM in 2024, you know why, because that's absolutely ridiculous, and anybody that does that ought to
be ashamed of themselves, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you, all right,
let's get back to business here, I have an option of a black bezel, gray bezel, orange bezel, green,
bezel, lavender, dollars, and say it again, or red, uh, last two definitely, last three,
definitely not going to happen, I'm leaning on orange, gray, or black, don't matter, so let's go ahead,
kick it with the keyboard, US English, of course, because I speak English, power adapter, let's say I
want a power adapter, do I want a 60 watt power adapter, you better bet you, let's talk about these
expansion chords, all right, I definitely want a USBC, definitely want two USBAs, I definitely want
an HDMI third generation, booyah, do I need ethernet, and do I need microSD, maybe not, now the truth
of the matter is that I already have a USBC doc, so I may not need all this to be in a machine as an
expansion chord, but a it wouldn't hurt to have because it's just $20 for that microSD, so I'm
not even tripping off of that at all, um, let's see, what can I get right now, how about we get another
USBC, okay, I'm already at the 1727 doc, so $1,727 and $27 and do I want a storage expansion card,
$250, I don't really need one, what I would like to do is perhaps, remember I told you about
putting that cursor windows on this machine, I don't want to put windows on that main drive,
but I'd be open to using it by means of an expansion chord, and then having the main drive
running my Linux, the distribution of Linux I'd be using is called Solus, I think that will be a
fantastic choice, so that's good to go, I don't necessarily need a storage expansion card off the
break, so we're going to leave that fit, leave that the way it is, so let's go ahead, it says
make a selection for bezel, you're going to make me make a selection, that's okay, how about I go with
black, boring, I know, shoot me, okay, let's do the add to bag, $1,727, give me crack coin and I don't care,
oh, as it turns out, I've already configured a machine several times, that's why my price is what it is
because this is multiple machines, wow, okay, not bad, but at least you get the point of what it is
that I would like as far as this particular framework machine, now one of the things that I look
forward to moving from the MacBook Pro that I carry around every day right now, this MacBook Pro from
2016 to a framework AMD 13-inch is that it'll be lighter, probably about a pound and a half
lighter, and I gotta make sure I don't make up for that pound of math, I added more into my
bag than what I need, so I'll work on that, so now it's nice having the machine, but it will be nice
to have something new, now my MacBook Pro can get a little noisy sometimes, never anything really
bothersome, but it is what it is, what I like about the framework is that it's also a rocket design
and that appeals to me, something goes wrong, I can go get a new part, boom, pop that back in,
do all the work myself and everything that is in there, I meant to make this comment about Apple,
when you do repair stuff, sometimes you have to use a special screwdriver hit, I think it's called
the Pentalo, whatever you call it, and so the thing about the framework all you need is one screwdriver
and you can handle any piece that's in that machine, I love it, I also love the fact that all the
pieces in there, the components that are in there, are also marked with the QR code,
there's also a marketplace you can buy used pieces, you can do what you need to have a new machine
the way you want it, love it, what else is great about the framework in particular, well let's say you
have a 13th generation AMD framework, but yet let me go even further, let's go all the way back to
in framework for a start with their 11th generation Intel, I can literally take that 11th generation
Intel device and upgrade to a 13th generation CPU, Intel, it can be AMD for crying a little,
what are the machines can you do that with? I wait,
side, can't do that, I don't know of any other machines you can do that with, where you can jump
generations like that now in the classic big pads, you could put a new, you could put like a,
you know, a new, you could put a newer CPU in there, you could do some things, this takes that
to the next level and I want you to understand that, once you take that to the next level it
means you theoretically have a laptop that you don't need to throw away, and a beautiful thing
about those motherboards is that once you're done with them, you can build a whole new PC off of that,
isn't that awesome? So you'll always have a use for those older motherboards, they won't just
be sitting around gathering dust unless that's just what you wanted to do.
There was something I meant to say, and I don't want to forget it because it's a very important thing.
Let's see, let me take another sip of water. I'm hoping you can hear me right because I was using
these air buds, but the thing is they get loosened out ear and they are like about the fall and
when I adjust them and it messes up my audio and that gets really annoying, that's why I like
the ones that go over the ear, like the hook because then they stay in place and I don't have
to have them move while I'm talking, the vibration kind of makes them come out of my ear and that's
really annoying, goodness is annoying. I am trying to think of what I was about to say
I've been meaning to do, oh well, I lost it. So we're not even going to worry about that.
Let's still back to the recording. I'm obviously still recording because that's what I do.
And like I said, I'm looking for a machine that I can build myself.
Something I can really enjoy and I don't have to make expensive repairs to it either.
I've learned a lot about this company ever since it came out. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos,
everything, different ones that have reviewed it and shout out to Lewis Rossman as well
because I appreciate the way that he is very straightforward about what he has to say
and doesn't pull punches. Great job. Thanks Lewis. It's just nice to be able to have such a nice
machine and this truly mine. What I'm going for and that's what we're going to be doing.
And what else did I want to say while I was here? Like I said, I'll be using solos on here
and yeah. So that's about all I really have to say at this point really.
I thought there was something else I can always do. Another recording and follow up on what I'm
saying right now. But it is what it is. If I might redo this one as well. But anyway, this has been
Swift 110 and options talking about the journey from MacBook Pro 2015 to framework AMD 13-inch
framework AMD 13th generation and how nice that would be going from a 16-gag laptop
so using 64 gigs will be really nice. I'm curious how much power I'll get out of the battery life.
I don't see as being a real issue. I just look at it as being a really fantastic way to kind of
about the B1 once I get the money for it, which is a whole other thing. But I think you are
awful listening to me. And you guys, I mean, feel free to do your own recordings here on Hacker Public
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